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I am trying to establish what chime tune was played by Lyons Maid/Lord Neilson (not Softee) vans in the sixties also the El Dorado vans. Can anyone help?
Lyons Maid was a seven note tune, in a large electric box with speed control. "Buy it from the Lyons Maid Van". Musical notes to follow IS Norfolk
I am not that familiar with Lord Neilson vans but of course as they were part of the Lyons Maid company and as such the only chimes I ever heard were Westminster or the Mr softee jingle,and of course later on Tonibell joined the company with their own jingle. BS Suffolk

I have a digital recording of the 'Midland Counties' chime, Thorens movement, is this the same one?
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3 Can anyone tell me the speed ( R.P.M ) of the main drive shaft, to the refrigeration unit on any of the mobile vans. Also what refrigerant do you now use as R12 is no longer available? The new gases to use instead of R12 is R409A . the speed of the shaft off the drive is about 750rpm Richard9955%
4 What kind of ice cream machine is used in Pizza Hut, can anyone help?

Phone Dan O'Neill in Crewe (see pages for Pumps & Gears) He knows which ones they are

5 Need to know where to repair a GAGGIA brand ice cream machine - can anyone help? this web site is the agent for gaggia ice cream in the uk http://beau-port.co.uk/acatalog/Beau_Port_Home__
Gaggia_ice_cream_maker_71.html or phone them on 0800 7836738 beau-port is the company name Household line HOMEWARE BRANDS LTD Halifax Ph. +44 1422 330295 Fax +44 1422 330414 e-mail: sales@homewares.co.uk web site: www.homewares.co.uk Commercial line CHEVRON LTD. Twickenham Ph. +44 181 8989881 Fax +44 181 8988060 or http://www.gaggia.it/uk Kevin/New Zealand
6 Could someone please claifiy the difference between hard & soft ice cream vans. thank you. Hard & soft Vans describe the major difference between vans (or trucks) in the UK. A soft van has a Whippy type ice cream machine fitted (soft ice cream) wheras a hard van doesn't. The soft ice cream is freshly made at the time from liquid mix. The soft vans usually have a direct drive to power the ice cream machine from the engine rather than an electric generator. Hard vans only have fridges & chillers and sell pre wrapped frozen products and scoop ice cream only. Soft vans can have fridges and chillers as well. CL Staffordshire
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9 Q : what is direct drive.
Q : how much does it cost .
Q : does it work with standard ice cream freezers.
Q : what about a 12volt to 240volt unit .
1: A direct drive is a drive taken off via the engine using a bracket mounted on the side of the engine containing bearings, shaft and an electro-magnetic clutch
2: A good quality unit is £330 and can be purchased from Southern Sales & Services (see web site)
3: This unit is designed to work with soft ice cream machines. However on transport refrigerated vehicles a direct drive unit is again driven via the engine but this will run a cooling system mounted either over the cab or within an insulated body
4: To run 240 volts from a 12 volt system you would require to run a very large inverter which if you are thinking of locating within the average ice cream van would be out of the question due to the weight and size TD
We are investigating putting shaft driven 240 volt generators onto the direct drive systems. This will power any mains appliance within the van from a ring main - shop ice cream mchines, slush, fridges, microwaves, lighting etc email mobiling Webmaster for further details
10 I have a conversion van with rear AC can I use 409a to replace the r12. and is there a special oil or is 409a a drop in replacement for all R12 systems. Also I have a refrigerant called freeze 12 is this a different kind of r12. Can anyone help?